

#1653 - Andy Norman
May 18, 2021
Andy Norman, a philosophy teacher and the director of Carnegie Mellon University's Humanism Initiative, discusses the concept of 'mind parasites'—toxic ideas that invade our thinking. He emphasizes the need for a mental immune system to combat misinformation and encourages critical thinking through philosophical methods. Their conversation includes insights on the importance of kindness for mental health, the balance between free speech and censorship, and how meditation fosters clarity. Norman also touches on the transformative power of meaningful dialogue and the complexities of belief in a polarized world.
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Voodoo and Belief
- Joe Rogan and Andy Norman discuss voodoo as a form of negative suggestion impacting beliefs and behavior.
- This example illustrates how negative expectations can have tangible effects, similar to a nocebo.
Mental Immunity
- Minds, like bodies, have immune systems that protect against harmful invaders.
- These mental immune systems identify and eliminate bad ideas, similar to how physical immune systems fight pathogens.
Defining Mental Immune System
- Joe Rogan asks Andy Norman to define "mental immune system": Does it involve meditation or specific ways of addressing problems?
- How do emotions factor into this "mental immune system"?