If you’re interested in this episode, you may also like our interview with former Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002h9s7
Still reeling from general election defeat, Conservative politicians and members are gathering at their conference in Manchester.
Former Scottish Conservative head of media Adam Morris and the BBC’s Glenn Campbell tell us what leaders Russell Findlay and Kemi Badenoch need to do to turn party fortunes around.
Scotcast is the BBC’s Scottish news podcast, with Martin Geissler, Laura Miller and Natalie Higgins.
Get in touch: scotcast@bbc.co.uk