349 | The ACLU Lawsuit Helping to Radically Reimagine Public Defense in Maine w/Zachary Heiden, Carol Garvan, and Eve Primus

Apr 24, 2025

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Today, Hunter sat down with Zachary Heiden, Carol Garvan, and Professor Eve Primus to discuss the ACLU of Maine's major victory in the fight to change Maine's Public Defense. Since the Sixth Amendment Center's report came out years ago, one thing was clear about Public Defense in Maine: it was in a state of crisis. Now, there finally appears to be a path out of the crisis. Thanks in part to the lawsuit filed by the ACLU of Maine, the courage of public defenders, the judiciary, and the delayed but strong action of the legislature, Maine is on the path to Public Defender Offices around the state. On this episode, we discuss how this happened, why it was needed, and what other states can and should learn from this story.

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Carol Garvan, Legal Director, ACLU of Maine

Zachary Heiden, Chief Counsel, ACLU of Maine

Eve Primus, Professor of Law, University of Michigan

Resources:

Contact the ACLU of Maine Here

https://www.aclumaine.org/en