The Stack Overflow Podcast

Open source is giving you choices with your agent systems

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Oct 21, 2025
In a fascinating chat, John Dickerson, CEO of Mozilla.ai and expert in multi-agent systems, dives into the role of open source in the AI landscape. He explains how open standards can enhance interoperability among AI agents and the balance of trust and determinism in using them. John highlights the significance of user choice in an era of data privacy concerns and explores the implications of bot traffic on web creators. Additionally, he discusses the potential of low-resource AI and emphasizes the need for robust evaluation standards for agent systems.
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INSIGHT

Agents Are Models Plus Tools

  • Modern AI systems are models plus tool use and external systems, not just token-in/token-out LLMs.
  • Multi-step tasks and orchestrator-plus-specialist agents create powerful but complex stochastic behaviors.
INSIGHT

Trust Drops With More AI Use

  • Users lose trust as they use AI more because stochastic agent behavior surprises them.
  • Deterministic systems win in regulated settings when traceability and compliance matter.
ADVICE

Use Emerging Agent Standards

  • Adopt open standards like MCP and A2A to ensure predictable integration between agents and software.
  • Treat these protocols like traditional APIs to build with confidence and interoperability.
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