Rachel Kondo and Justin Marks, co-creators of the Emmy-winning series "Shogun," share insights on adapting literature into a series and the dynamics of writing together as a couple. Megan Amram and Susan Soon He Stanton discuss the art of staffing and joke crafting on popular shows. They also dive into the complexities of translating culturally rich scripts. The atmosphere is lively as they play trivia games, explore the challenges of production, and reflect on personal journeys in the industry—all peppered with humor and poignant storytelling.
The hosts discuss the unpredictable nature of live performances, emphasizing how technical difficulties can both challenge and engage an audience.
Justin Marks and Rachel Kondo share their insights on adapting literature to screen, focusing on character perspectives and narrative depth.
Megan Amram and Susan Soon-Heard explore the importance of sensitivity in comedy writing, advocating for diverse voices in writers' rooms.
Deep dives
Live Show Atmosphere and Technical Challenges
The episode captures the lively atmosphere of a live show at the Austin Film Festival, filled with audience excitement. The hosts, John and Craig, humorously discuss the unexpected issues that arise from the venue, particularly erratic lighting that disrupts their performance. This leads to moments of confusion for both the guests and the audience, contributing to the overall unpredictability of the live recording. Their playful banter and the audience's laughter help to create a warm, engaging environment despite the technical difficulties.
World Series Excitement
As the hosts record, the World Series game is actively unfolding, with Craig's beloved Yankees facing off against the Dodgers. Updates on the game become an ongoing theme throughout the episode, interweaving personal anecdotes and light-hearted commentary on the game’s stakes. The hosts share their emotional rollercoaster as the Yankees take and lose the lead during key moments, emphasizing the interplay between sports and entertainment in their lives. This shared sports enthusiasm adds a layer of camaraderie and excitement to the live event.
Guest Insights on Screenwriting
The episode features insightful discussions with guests Justin Marks and Rachel Kondo, creators of the show 'Shogun.' They delve into the creative process behind adapting a substantial literary work into a television series, highlighting the challenges and surprises along the way. Their candid reflections on approaching character perspectives and structural adaptations reveal the depth of thought required in screenwriting. Additionally, they emphasize the importance of crafting engaging narratives that respect the source material while still resonating with modern audiences.
Balancing Collaboration and Individuality in Writing
During the conversation, topics of collaboration in writing are explored, particularly the dynamics of co-writing and the balance between teamwork and individual voices. Rachel and Justin share their experiences of how their different writing styles complement each other and enhance the final product. This dialogue underscores the complexities of working closely with a partner while remaining true to one's creative vision. Furthermore, the challenges of maintaining clear communication within a collaborative environment are discussed, reinforcing the necessity of adaptability in the writing process.
Navigating Comedy in Contemporary Media
The discussion shifts to the landscape of comedy writing today and the importance of sensitivity in humor. Megan Amram and Susan Soon-Heard share insights on how to blend comedy with relevant social themes while respecting diverse perspectives. They highlight the value of cultivating a writer's room that reflects varied backgrounds to create richer storytelling. This approach fosters a culture where humor can thrive while also being mindful of its impact, demonstrating how modern comedic narratives can balance levity with insight.
John and Craig make their triumphant return to the Austin Film Festival for a wild night full of Emmy winning writers. They welcome Shōgun co-creators Rachel Kondo & Justin Marks to look at their process for structuring a series-long adaptation, keeping translations eloquent and accurate, and writing together as a married couple.
We then welcome Susan Soon He Stanton (Succession, Dead Ringers) and Megan Amram (The Good Place, Pitch Perfect: Bumper in Berlin) to discuss staffing on shows and crafting jokes. We also invite two audience members to play a new game: IMDB Sweeney Todd.
In our bonus segment for premium members, the panel answers audience questions on adaptations, a crossover with Succession and The Good Place, entering Hollywood from outside the U.S., and navigating Hollywood’s current contraction.