Jon Richardson and the Futurenauts

S06 EP2: They think it’s all Clover!

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Nov 28, 2025
Clover Hogan, founder of Force of Nature and a prominent climate activist, shares her compelling journey from Australia to driving youth-led sustainability. She discusses transforming eco-anxiety into collective action and the emotional toll of being trolled by Elon Musk. The conversation dives into the importance of collective movements over individual guilt and how spiritual practices help sustain activism. Clover also teases her upcoming book, addressing apathy and the need for systemic change. Plus, the hosts engage in some light-hearted banter about quirky consumer trends.
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ANECDOTE

Green School Shaped Early Activism

  • Clover convinced her parents to move the family so she could attend the Green School and learn practical skills for environmental action.
  • By 16 she was at COP21 and Green School propelled many students into impactful environmental projects.
ANECDOTE

Youth Persistence Changed Bali's Policies

  • Malati, a Green School peer, launched Bye Bye Plastic Bags at 12 and used persistent petitioning and a hunger strike to secure policy change from Bali's governor.
  • Youth-led persistence translated into meaningful local policy reform on plastic bags.
INSIGHT

Economic Precarity Fuels Youth Radicalism

  • Young people's economic precarity fuels radical energy and willingness to pursue disruptive climate tactics.
  • When traditional goals like homeownership feel unattainable, activism becomes a meaningful outlet for agency.
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