On today’s episode of Hear Me Out… stretching our legs.

We know we like to bring you deep conversations about the biggest topics in the news. But today? Let’s go for a walk.

Lots of us picked up this new healthy habit over the course of the pandemic. But walking is still one of those things you either love or really, really hate. So we took our host — an enthusiastic walker — and sat her down with someone who hates it. 

Our guest is Lucy Lopez, media personality and host of the Mamacita Rica podcast.

If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: hearmeout@slate.com

Podcast production by Maura Currie

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