Roxane Gay and Debbie Millman are a creative power couple, each with their own impressive careers, built over decades of work. Roxane is the best-selling author of Hunger and Bad Feminist. Debbie Millman is a design legend, and host of the award-winning podcast Design Matters. Debbie’s professional interest in interviewing Roxane about her work ended up blossoming into a romance that neither expected.

You can learn more about Roxane’s work at roxanegay.com, and Debbie’s work at debbiemillman.com You can also follow them on Twitter at @rgay and @debbiemillman.

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