In this podcast, they chat about Copenhagen, doing thorough research for interviews, red light therapy, excessive book publishing, splitting the check, and the host Sam switching roles to interview the hosts.
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Quick takeaways
Virtual interviews post-pandemic offer a candid dynamic, free from face-to-face pressures.
The podcast's insider popularity contrasts with public perception, highlighting its unspoken allure.
Pursuing independent music and podcasting as hobbies, not careers, challenges the notion of artistic livelihood.
Deep dives
The Role of Virtual Interviews and Social Dynamics
The hosts discuss the shift to virtual interviews, reflecting on how people's comfort levels in social situations have evolved post-pandemic. They explore how podcasting virtually offers a different dynamic, allowing for candid conversations free from face-to-face pressures. They joke about the convenience of virtual interactions and the authenticity it can bring to discussions.
Podcast Demographic Insights and Perceptions
The hosts delve into the mystery of their podcast's appeal, noting the contrast between public perception and insider popularity. They humorously address the dichotomy between podcasts for intelligence versus enjoyment, highlighting the unspoken allure of their show among industry insiders despite public perception.
Navigating Changes in Media and Analysis of Pitchfork's Evolution
The conversation shifts to the evolution of media, specifically Pitchfork, prompting a discussion on the perception of significant changes in the industry. The hosts share perspectives on the impact of business decisions on media outlets, emphasizing the resilience and continuous evolution of platforms in response to shifts in reader preferences.
The Evolution of Creative Pursuits
The podcast delves into the idea that independent music and podcasting should transform into hobbies rather than viable career paths. The host and guest discuss the shift in mindset where pursuing creative endeavors like music and podcasting is seen as more of a side passion rather than a primary income source. They compare these creative pursuits to other industries and question the notion of making a living solely from artistic endeavors.
Challenges in the Podcasting Industry
The conversation extends to the challenges within the podcasting industry, highlighting issues such as the ad market fluctuations and the impact of oversaturation. The hosts reflect on the influence of regulation and advertising, questioning the sustainability of the current free model in podcasting and exploring potential shifts in how content is delivered and monetized. They touch on the balance between creating meaningful content and the commercial aspects of podcast production.
Sam Fragoso is the host of the podcast Talk Easy, and he's interviewed Tom Hanks, Fran Lebowitz, and Ziwe, to name a few. We chat about Chris arriving in Copenhagen, TJ's Horses review, we ask him how he gets into all these parties, honesty is not a stray, is it possible to do too much research before an interview? film criticism, don't forget to go outside, red light therapy, why do people like this podcast? maybe music is a hobby now, Sam wants to be a basketball player, Smartless got another $100m, are there too many books? this daddy splits the check, and you know Sam is unable to resist flipping the script and interviewing us.
