Jeff is a leading expert in biodiversity and a passionate educator and natural historian. Pelagic publishing kindly sent me a copy of his latest book “Birds and Flowers, an intimate fifty million year relationship”. (gifted). Me and Jeff sat down to talk about his work studying this relationship, his beginnings in natural history and why the much-loved hummingbirds are far from the only family of birds known to be pollinators.

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Coffee feature: Gajah Mountain from Union Coffee Roasters

Country: Sumatra

Producer: Gajah Mountain

Altitude: 1300masl

Tasting notes: Grapefruit, chocolate truffle, mollasses

Music credits - "Heron Island" by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Richard Bentley⁠⁠⁠