Dave talks to Brooks Headley of Superiority Burger about a range of topics, from constant iteration and refining dishes to the punk-rock urge to zig when everyone else zags. Superiority Burger has moved since they last spoke, so the pair talks about adjusting to the new space, New York, and thoughts on expansion. Dave closes by answering an Ask Dave about prepping frozen fish.

Learn more about Superiority Burger: https://www.superiorityburger.com/

Listen to our previous episode with Brooks Headley: https://open.spotify.com/episode/70nvKRNDXARAqCw5mOOslX?si=l9FoKuhwQEq4mOUroRsz5w

Listen to our previous episode with Nancy Silverton: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3MLVEZq7CTbTTEKftrI7xk?si=Cc7FckT9TfWMXnbBYfU4yA

Listen to our previous episode with Mark Ladner: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5qjEx81gP1UuGxHwoxjqfq?si=WxuUwMT7SZaakxsNRBoAhQ

Read Dave's writing on Brooks for TIME 100: https://time.com/6964708/brooks-headley/

Hear the Ramones' 'All Quiet on the Eastern Front': https://open.spotify.com/track/3uxp0UwVWJVJqlXnH1d7zi?si=d6f4e464f8094a06

Learn more about Yang's Kitchen: https://www.yangskitchenla.com/

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Learn more about the Torrance Farmer's Market: https://www.torranceca.gov/our-city/cultural-services/farmers-market

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Watch our previous podcast with Jeremy Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhkVPVTJwnA

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