Avgi Saketopoulou and Ann Pellegrini, "Gender Without Identity" (Unconscious in Translation, 2023)
Jun 27, 2023
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"Gender Without Identity" featuring Avgi Saketopoulou and Ann Pellegrini challenges static notions of gender identity, advocating for a more nuanced and complex understanding of gender. The authors discuss the ethical importance of recognizing gender as emerging from processes of self-theorization, while also addressing the ongoing attacks faced by the LGBTQ+ community within psychoanalysis. They explore topics such as the impact of trauma on gender, the figure of the child in clinical work, and the need for creating a therapeutic space for patients to define their own identities. With a focus on gender improvisation and experimentation, this podcast delves into radical new ways of working with gender diversity psychoanalytically.
Gender is a process of becoming influenced by mythosymbolic codes and individual agency, challenging fixed notions of authenticity and true gender.
Psychoanalysis can be revitalized by incorporating insights from disciplines like queer theory, trans of color critique, and black feminism.
Resistance against transphobic and racist attacks is essential, both internally and externally to psychoanalysis, through alliances and addressing material consequences.
Deep dives
Challenging Binary Developmentalism and Core Gender Identity
The podcast episode discusses the critique against binary developmentalism and the concept of core gender identity. The authors argue against the notion that everyone is born cis and straight, or that gender is predetermined and fixed. They advocate for a more complex understanding of gender as a process of becoming, influenced by external mythosymbolic codes and individual agency. The aim is to create a space for exploring and questioning how gender coagulates and evolves throughout a person's lifetime, without relying on fixed notions of authenticity or true gender.
Mutating Psychoanalysis through External Discourses
The podcast emphasizes the importance of allowing psychoanalysis to be influenced and disrupted by ideas and theories from outside the field. The authors advocate for an allocentric approach that incorporates insights from disciplines such as queer theory, trans of color critique, and black feminism. By challenging the status quo and embracing external debates, psychoanalysis can be revitalized and offer new ways of thinking about gender and sexuality. This process involves dismantling entrenched assumptions, reconceptualizing categories like cisness, and acknowledging the intersectionality of race, religion, and class in the formation of identities.
Resistance Against Transphobic and Racist Attacks
The podcast highlights the urgent need for resistance against transphobic and racist attacks on trans and queer life. The authors argue that these attacks are not only external to psychoanalysis but also occur within the field itself. They discuss how legislative assaults on trans rights and the panic around critical race theory reveal the inseparable nature of anti-racist and anti-trans struggles. The podcast emphasizes the importance of forging alliances between these movements and integrating their insights into psychoanalytic practice. It also explores the material consequences of these debates and the need for psychoanalysis to confront and address them.
Theories around gender becoming and response to trauma
The podcast episode explores the idea that all gender, including cisgender, is influenced by and often responds to traumatic experiences. It discusses the evolving meaning of the term 'cisgender' and emphasizes that gender is not a fixed ontological truth. The episode highlights the role of language and cultural patterns in shaping our understanding of gender, and encourages a more nuanced and complex approach to gender in psychoanalysis.
Self-theorization and the clinical encounter
The episode delves into the concepts of self-theorization and patient affirmation in the clinical setting. It underscores how patients exercise agency in theorizing themselves in relation to forces that act upon them in society. The podcast emphasizes the importance of providing space for patients to explore and experiment with their gender identities, highlighting the improvisation and invention that is involved in the process. It also acknowledges the anxieties that both patients and clinicians may experience in navigating gender issues in the medical system.
In this episode, JJ Mull discusses Gender Without Identity (Unconscious in Translation, 2023) with co-authors Avgi Saketopoulou and Ann Pellegrini. Weaving together a variety of influences -- ranging from the metapsychology of Jean Laplanche to trans of color critique and queer theory -- Gender Without Identity formulates a theory of gender formation adequate to the radical complexity of trans and queer subjects. Pushing up against static notions of “core gender identity,” Saketopoulou and Pellegrini argue for the ethical urgency of recognizing that gender emerges from complex processes of “self-theorization.” This brave new work invites radical new ways for working with gender diversity psychoanalytically.
J.J. Mull is a poet, training clinician, and fellow in the Program for Psychotherapy at Cambridge Health Alliance. Originally from the west coast, he currently lives and bikes in Somerville, MA. He can be reached at: jay.c.mull@gmail.com.