The Animal Turn

S1E10: Grad Review with Hira Jaleel and Paulina Siemieniec

Jul 15, 2020
Hira Jaleel, a lawyer from Pakistan passionate about animal rights, joins Paulina Siemieniec, a PhD student exploring animal ethics and politics. They reflect on crucial themes from the season, tackling the legal classifications of animals as property versus sentient beings. The duo discusses global disparities in animal rights, particularly the contrasting approaches of Western nations and the Global South. Their conversation emphasizes the interconnected nature of human and animal oppression, advocating for a more nuanced legal framework that enhances animal welfare.
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ANECDOTE

Rescue Sparked A Legal Career

  • Hira Jaleel described rescuing her dog Peanut as the moment she stopped seeing animals as objects and began studying animal law.
  • That personal relationship drove her to pursue an LLM in Animal Law and work on animal cases in Pakistan.
INSIGHT

Property Framing Enables Harm

  • Property status versus personhood repeatedly framed animals as legal objects rather than moral subjects.
  • That legal framing lets law authorize harm while appearing to regulate it via welfare rules.
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Personhood Rooted In Sentience

  • Personhood tied to sentience grounds moral consideration and distinct duties toward individuals.
  • Legal personhood as currently used (e.g., corporations) differs from moral personhood based on subjective experience.
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