

FULL EPISODE - I think I’m leaving Zionism, or Zionism is leaving me.
10 snips May 30, 2025
The discussion delves into a personal reflection on Zionism amid the ongoing conflict in Gaza. The speaker shares how recent events have reshaped their identity and beliefs about Israel. They tackle the contentious debate surrounding accusations of genocide, exploring the complexities of intent behind Israel's actions. This thought-provoking examination invites listeners to grapple with both personal and political dimensions of the issue, highlighting the transformative nature of current sociopolitical realities.
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Isaac's Journey to Zionism
- Isaac Saul's first trip to Israel was a profound emotional and identity-forming experience via Birthright.
- Later, immersive experiences in Israel deepened his connection and transformed his identity to an observant Jew and Zionist.
Zionism's Complex Reality
- Being a Zionist means acknowledging Israel's flaws while believing in its promise.
- Zionism includes pushing Israel towards its ideals despite painful realities like war crimes and broken promises.
Predictions of Gaza Conflict Outcome
- Isaac predicted by May 2025, massive death toll, destruction, and continued conflict in Gaza would mark failure for Israel.
- His warnings were initially seen as overreactions but have largely come true, revealing tragic consequences of continued conflict.