Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Tim Walz seemed a bit nervous as the debate started, but got over that pretty quickly. Republican JD Vance was confident from the start and presenting a side of himself that voters have not yet seen, someone who, on the surface, seems reasonable. While the debate was surprisingly civil (mics were only disabled once), Vance masterfully spun lies into his answers and tried to divert Walz attention from the main issues with minutiae. At the end of debate, Walz asked Vance if he could agree that Trump lost the last election. Vance couldn’t do it, giving Walz the chance to highlight a major shortcoming. We welcome journalist and political analyst Michael Shure to discuss it. Presidential historian and political analyst John Rothmann will join us to talk politics.