Aundi Kolber is a therapist and the author of Try Softer: A Fresh Approach to Move Us out of Anxiety, Stress, and Survival Mode--and into a Life of Connection and Joy.

On this episode of the podcast, Aundi and Mike talk about the impact of complex trauma on the body and soul, and how Aundi’s own experiences of trauma led her into the work she does as a therapist. They also talk about how Christian faith shapes our perspective on trauma, the relationship between what the head knows and what the body knows, and how Jesus’ own embodiment points the way to our own healing.

Produced by Mike Cosper

Edited by Mark Owens

Theme Song “Eden Was a Garden” by Roman Candle

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