Church leaders seldom crash and burn because they fail at preaching or ministering. Christian leaders often burn out because they don’t know how to manage themselves and what they’re experiencing. In the first episode of a two-part conversation we lay the groundwork for understanding how human relationships work and our part in those relationships referencing the eight concepts of family systems theory developed by Murray Bowen. Ruth is joined by a new friend R. Robert Creech (PhD, Baylor University), an experienced pastor and seminary teacher to discuss the first three concepts. Robert is the director of pastoral ministries at George W. Truett Theological Seminary, Baylor University, in Waco, Texas and is the author of several books. SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES

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Mentioned in this podcast:
Family Systems and Congregational Life: A Map for Ministry, R. Robert Creech
The Leader's Journey: Accepting the Call to Personal and Congregational Transformation, Jim Herrington , Trisha Taylor, and R. Robert Creech
Extraordinary Relationships: A New Way of Thinking About Human Interactions, Roberta M. Gilbert

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Transforming Community
Ruth Haley Barton

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Music Credit:
New Way to Live written by Joel Hanson. I am New written by Joel Hanson and Jason Gray.

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