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Resilience, Complexity, and Your Boss a collab w/Punk Rock Safety
Apr 9, 2025
55:02
Ben (Goodheart), Dave (Provan) and Ron (Gantt) have the very awesome podcast Punk Rock Safety (punkrocksafety.com) - you can get your own punk rock safety merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com
Charles Perrow wrote Normal Accidents and talks about safety and power in his essay (book, really), Complex Organizations.
Drew Rae lit the stage on fire about safety work as soothing rather than actually improving safety: EHS Congress Berlin 2024 - Day2
Dr. Richard Cook’s concepts of ‘Above the Line/Below the Line’ got a shout out - here’s the paper, and here’s John Allspaw giving a talk about the concept.
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