This episode is sponsored by Riverside, your all-in-one podcast and video platform. Go to https://creators.riverside.fm/Anna and use the code MSM23 for 15% off. This episode is also sponsored by PDCflow, payment management made easy. Visit pdcflow.com/flow-billing to learn more. I’d just like to take a brief moment of silence to remember those innocent lives that have been lost during the terrorist attacks committed by Hamas in Israel. Especially the children, babies, and families that were asleep in their homes. For all the victims of unspeakable terror, let’s please take a moment. I ran a bit of an experiment and decided to have two guests on the show with me this time, and learned twice as much. Tyler Wells (Co-Founder and CTO at Propel) and Natan Yellin (CEO at Robusta) joined me on the show. About Propel: Founded: 2021 Funding: Seed Description: Analytics Platform as a Service (APaaS) About Robusta: Founded: 2021 Funding: Seed Description: For DevOps to Monitor their cloud and kubernetes so they can respond faster. In this episode: We all define what is marketing from our POVs; Tyler talks about Propel's most recent conference experience; People don't realize how hard it is to create good content; Why do marketing at all; What has been the hardest thing about marketing; On measuring your content efforts; AMA - both Tyler and Natan ask me their burning questions. You can find Tyler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerswells/ Learn more about Propel: https://www.propeldata.com/ You can find Natan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natanyellin/ Learn more about Robusta: https://home.robusta.dev/ For more content, subscribe to Modern Startup Marketing on Apple or Spotify or wherever you like to listen, and don't forget to leave a review if you're lovin' the show! I would love that so much. And whenever you’re ready, there are 3 ways I can help you: 1. fractional head of marketing for early stage startups >> www.furmanovmarketing.com 2. sign up to get my monthly startup marketing newsletter where I’m sharing playbooks and insights and cracking some jokes 3. Sponsor my Top 5% podcast and get startup founders, marketers and VCs hearing about your brand >> https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/anna-furmanov You can also find me hanging out on LinkedIn, definitely say hello and tell me which episodes you've listened to >> www.linkedin.com/in/annafurmanov