In Episode 61 we’re joined by friend of the pod Joey Santore of the Crime Pays But Botany Doesn’t podcast. We talk about how being in tune with the ecosystems you live in can be a deeply rewarding experience for the poor alienated souls of late capitalism and how to get started if you want to learn about basic botany. We also talk about the similarities between botany and history — and how much we hate lawns and parking lots.

Part of the Talking Shit series.

Show Notes

Crime Pays But Botany Doesn’t main website

Crime Pays But Botany Doesn’t podcast on Spotify

Crime Pays But Botany Doesn’t on Youtube

The Kill Your Lawn TV show

How to kill your lawn

iNaturalist

Joey interviewing Jay on Crime Pays But Botany Doesn’t

Jay’s promo episode about Namibia

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Mixing and editing by Charlotte Dora.

Jay Lesoleil is a writer, artist, and shelter worker from Montréal with a background in political anthropology. Jay is also one half of the podcast Fucking Cancelled.

Clementine Morrigan is a socialist-feminist writer, educator, and public intellectual based in Montréal, Canada. She writes popular and controversial essays about culture, politics, sexuality, and trauma. A passionate believer in independent media, she’s been making zines since the year 2000 and is the author of several books. She’s known for her iconic white-text-on-a-black-background mini-essays on Instagram. One of the leading voices on the Canadian Left and one half of the Fucking Cancelled podcast, Clementine is an outspoken critic of cancel culture and proponent of building solidarity across difference.

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