

Alex O'Connor on Animal Suffering: Christian Response
Dec 23, 2024
The podcast dives into the complex relationship between animal suffering and the existence of a benevolent God. It debates philosophical perspectives, particularly the fine-tuning argument and theodicy. The discussion highlights C.S. Lewis's views on pain in animals and critiques traditional beliefs about suffering's origins. The conversation also explores how angelic fall theodicy relates to the problem of evil, challenging listeners to reflect on moral responsibilities and the deeper implications of suffering in the natural world.
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Deer Suffering Example
- Alex O'Connor uses the example of a deer's suffering to argue against God.
- The deer, trapped and starving, experiences prolonged misery before being killed by a predator.
Suffering vs. Fine-Tuning
- Professor Goff believes animal suffering and fine-tuning are in tension.
- He suggests a middle ground: a God of limited power.
Weighing the Arguments
- Gavin Ortlund argues that fine-tuning and animal suffering aren't equally forceful arguments.
- Atheism struggles to explain fine-tuning, consciousness, morality, and possibly contingent reality itself.