Philip welcomes back long time friend and perennial guest Indy Johar. To start off 2025 Indy joins us to discuss what the world can look like when we focus on building a human economy and engage in asking beautiful questions.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop:
DI Ray (Amazon Prime/PBS Masterpiece)

The Terraformers – Annalee Newitz

Indy’s Drop:
Multisolving: Creating Systems in a Fractured World – Elizabeth Sawin

3 Body Problem (Netflix)

Three Body (Amazon Prime)

Special Guest: Indy Johar.

The Importance of a Church Community (Q&A Show)