Spotify is buying Bill Simmons’ sports and pop culture website and podcast network, The Ringer. It’s Spotify’s fourth podcast acquisition in a year. Recode’s Peter Kafka (who broke the story) sits down with Vox Media Podcast Network producer and former Ringer staff member Zach Mack to discuss what this deal means for Spotify, The Ringer and the future of podcasts.

Featuring: Zach Mack (@zachthemack), Senior Podcast Producer at Vox Media Podcast Network

Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode

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