

Why we must back the Kurds, and Syria's political future post-Assad, with Matt Broomfield and Leila Al-Shami
In the years since Syria’s civil war began in 2011, the country has been slowly drifting away from the mainstream media spotlight. But on 8 December, everything changed.
Turkish-backed opposition forces declared Syria liberated from the 24-year rule of President Bashar al-Assad, capturing the capital Damascus in what seemed like the blink of an eye.
So what does the future hold for religious and ethnic minorities in Syria? Will the Kurds realize their dream of self-governance under the defacto HTS authority? What remains of the country's political opposition and labour movements, and how can the international community support a fair and equal redistribution of power for Syrians?
Matt Broomfield and Leila Al-Shami provide some answers.
Guests: Leila Al-Shami and Matt Broomfield
Host: Maxine Betteridge-Moes
Credits: Maxine Betteridge-Moes (Producer), Amy Hall, Bethany Rielly, Conrad Landin, Nick Dowson (Co-editors), Paula Lacey (Editorial assistant), Samuel Raffnell-Williams (Theme music), Nazik Hamza (Audio Editor), Mari Fouz (Logo Design)
0:32 The day everything changed
3:02 Introducing Matt Broomfield
4:36 The Kurdish forces and their role in defeating ISIS
6:08 Turkey's attacks on Syria
7:41 Trump’s impact on the region
11:50 What cards can Turkey play?
12:45 The relationship between the autonomous administration and the HTS
14:03 Israel's expansion and occupation
16:41 How can post-Assad Syria benefit from Kurdish input
20:34 Introducing Leila Al-Shami
26:34 Does a secular society best represent Syria's diverse social fabric?
29:21 How can people on the left in Syria and beyond challenge neoliberal restructuring?
31:33 Nothing can be worse than Assad
33:52 Further reading
Further reading:
The war isn't over (Matt Broomfield, in our forthcoming March/April 2025 issue - subscribe here)
Where to now for Syria’s women? (Zaina Erhaim in New Internationalist)
Read NI 526 The Kurds: Betrayed again (New Internationalist, 2020)
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