Here is the second part of Johanna’s interview with Dvora Meyers where they talk about America’s role in gymnastics’ abusive history, what (certain) responses to Suni Lee’s gold medal tells us about the sport, and the impact of name, image, likeness (NIL) developments on college gymnastic athletes. Dvora Meyers is a writer and freelance journalist (formerly of Deadspin), and the author of the book The End of the Perfect 10: The Making and Breaking of Gymnastics’ Top Score —from Nadia to Now. Dvora writes prolifically about gymnastics and other sports from political, cultural, and social angles and her work has appeared in The New York Times,The Guardian, The Atlantic, Vice, Defector, FiveThirtyEight and many more. She also has a substack titled Unorthodox Gymnastics, which we strongly encourage people to subscribe to get a roundup of her published pieces, plus additional exclusive analyses made available to subscribers. Pieces mentioned in this episode: “Why it’s Not Surprising that Simone Biles Cheered for Angelina Melnikova” FiveThirtyEight  “Time for the End of the Teen Gymnast” FiveThirtyEight “Suni Lee Doesn’t Owe Her Gold Medal to Anyone” Unorthodox Gymnastics “Women’s Gymnastics is blasting into the future, but its scoring code is stuck in the past.” Defector You can follow Dvora on Twitter!   For a transcription of this episode, please click here. (Updated semi-regularly Credit @punkademic) Research Assistance for The End of Sport provided by Abigail Bomba. _________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested you can support the show via our Patreon. As always, please like, share, and rate us on your favorite podcast app, and give follow us on Twitter or Instagram. www.TheEndofSport.com