Like Mind, Like Body Half of America Is Hurting: What a New Study Reveals (Matt Goldberg, PhD, and David Clarke, MD)
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Dec 5, 2025 Meet Matt Goldberg, a research scientist and co-founder of X&Y, who shares his personal journey from chronic pain to recovery through mind-body methods. Joining him is Dr. David Clark, president of the Association for Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms, who offers insights from a groundbreaking study revealing that nearly half of U.S. adults suffer from unexplained pain. They discuss the interconnection of symptoms, the potential for neuroplastic therapies, and plans for a major outreach campaign to bring awareness to these issues.
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From Debilitating Pain To Fast Recovery
- Matt Goldberg described a two-year struggle with hand and forearm pain that resisted structural treatments and tests.
- He recovered rapidly after discovering and applying mind-body (neuroplastic) approaches like Curable and John Sarno's work.
The Real Barrier Is Communication
- The field now faces a communication problem: effective treatments exist but many clinicians and patients don't know about them.
- Changing practice requires scientific evidence plus strategic public and professional education.
Nearly Half Of Adults Have Persistent Symptoms
- The study estimates about 48% of U.S. adults have ongoing symptoms either unexplained or not responding to standard care.
- This includes pain and many non-pain symptoms, making neuroplastic conditions extremely common.


