For this week’s DadChat, Nate and Francis discuss books they’re reading, which leads to an examination of how Nate wound up giving the work of Ursula Le Guin and Phillip K. Dick a try, and why he strongly recommends both. We also discuss childhood insomnia and recommendations for easy-to-manage herb gardens. It’s a DadChat package deal.

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DadChat: Ursula Le Guin Laudation Station