As Donald Trump blames Ukraine for starting the war in 2022, can he and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy ever reconcile their differences and, if not, what are the implications? Today's guest is Ukrainian MP Oleksiy "Alex" Goncharenko, who explains the country's red lines towards any possible deal with Russia and why, if any of those are crossed, they still have the option to keep fighting.

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Trump warned Ukraine can keep fighting without US support