Mathew Burrows, director of the Foresight, Strategy and Risks Initiative at the Atlantic Council, talks to us about trends to watch out for in 2020 and beyond. We discussed China, populism, climate change, and the liberal international order.

Atlantic Council research associate Julian Mueller-Kaler, a BMW Center alumnus, joined us for the conversation.

You can read Mat's latest publication, "Global Risks 2035 Update: Decline or New Renaissance?," which discuss in the episode, here: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/global-risks-2035-update/

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European and Global Trends for 2020 and Beyond