In this episode, I am joined by Joe Barnard, the founder of Cross Training Ministries. Joe is also the author of, The Way Forward: A Roadmap of Spiritual Growth for Men in the 21st Century. Listen as Joe and I discuss discipleship and mentoring; the difference between checklists and maturity; and his latest book which aims to help Christian men get unstuck in their spiritual growth. Links Buy Joe’s book, “The Way Forward: A Roadmap of Spiritual Growth for Men in the 21st Century“Check out the Cross Training Ministries website.Read “You Will Be Judged: Thoughts on a Neglected Motivation” an excerpt from Joe’s book.Read Thomas Chalmers “The Expulsive Power of a New Affection” which we mentioned on the show.