136: Is the New Apostolic Reformation a Cult? (with Doug Geivett & Holly Pivec)

Welcome to the Theology & Ethics podcast! In this episode, the KC team (and guests Dr. Doug Geivett and Holly Pivec discuss the New Apostolic Reformation, its prominent members, and the many dangers that it poses. Doug Geivett and Holly Pivec have co-authored four books covering the history, doctrines and practices of NAR and its “apostles” and “prophets.”

Doug Geivett has been teaching philosophy at Biola University (La Mirada, CA) since 1993. He was educated at Multnomah University (B.S.), Gonzaga University (M.A.), Dallas Theological Seminary (M.A.), and the University of Southern California (Ph.D.). He has participated in public debates on the question of God's existence with Richard Dawkins, Michael Shermer, Paul Draper, Bruce Russell, John Shook, and Gordon Stein. He lectures nationally and internationally on an assortment of topics related to his publications.

Holly Pivec has a master’s degree in Christian apologetics from Biola University. She was the University Editor at Biola for nearly a decade and also served as managing editor of the award-winning Biola Magazine.

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CHAPTERS & TIMECODES

00:00:00-Introduction

00:08:37-Concerns over NAR’s Cultish Features

00:11:18-A History of The New Apostolic Reformation

00:18:24-The Global Scope of NAR

00:21:48-Similarities between NAR and Mormonism

00:24:08-Is NAR a Cult?

00:29:37-NAR’s Novel and Aberrant Teachings

00:40:56-NAR, Dominionism and Christian Nationalism

00:46:00-NAR and The Shepherding Movement

00:49:21-The Mike Bickle Scandal at IHOP

00:58:22-The NAR Idea of “Prayer” and The Story of Olive Heilegental

01:08:17-How NAR “Prophets” Get Around Failed Prophecy

01:12:57-Power and NAR’s Spiritual Abuses

01:17:44-How Bethel Music Draws People into NAR

01:20:15-NAR’s Deviant Spiritualism and The Myth of Miracles

01:28:52-Bill Johnson and The Allure of Spiritual Power

01:34:32-Sexual Misconduct & Church Leadership

01:40:19-Culture Seeking Spirituality

01:42:57-Conclusion