Anton Mishchuk is a Software Engineer.  They dive into a fascinating conversation about software development, frameworks, books on programming languages, and a community event in Berlin. They touch on a wide range of topics, including the transition from Ruby to Elixir, the development and eventual discontinuation of a testing framework, and the potential use cases and benefits of flow-based programming as an application layer framework. They explore the challenges, inspirations, and ambitions of projects such as ALF, Octopus, and Kraken. From the academic value of testing frameworks to the philosophical principles behind structured programming, this episode offers a deep dive into the world of software development. 


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