The election of Donald Trump for his second term in the White House sent the world into a spiral of uncertainty since November last year, and recent weeks have proved more chaotic than anyone may have forecast.
Robert D. Kaplan reckons the chaos and crisis can only deepen in the next four years.
We were joined by author Robert D. Kaplan on the release of his book Waste Land: A World in Permanent Crisis.
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