In this episode Toby sits down with Papa Roach vocalist Jacoby Shaddix. They chat about not touring for two years, starting an album out of pandemic depression, family, where the band name comes from, unconventional early life, his different musical influences, the beginnings of the band, East Coast hard-core, partying and alcoholism, meditation and bettering himself, hitting rock-bottom, therapy, getting sober and spiritual, putting out all the different records over time, his new album and turning down THAT Evanescence song

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