The Bulwark Podcast Van Lathan and David Jolly: How To Beat Middle Finger MAGAism
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Sep 30, 2025 David Jolly, a former U.S. Representative and current Democratic gubernatorial candidate in Florida, shares insights on the state’s political landscape and his vision for tackling affordability and housing issues. He discusses his party switch and the importance of authentic leadership. Van Lathan, a media commentator, dives into the dangers of dehumanizing rhetoric in politics and the necessity of balancing empathy with moral clarity. Together, they explore how cultural conversations can shift to effectively confront the challenges of MAGAism.
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Economy Dominates Florida Voters' Concerns
- David Jolly argues Florida's top voter concern is cost, not culture wars, based on trail observations and data.
- He frames the governorship as an executive office to fix affordability, insurance, and public services practically.
Appearance Over Readiness Rings Hollow
- Pete Hegseth's remarks prioritized appearance and cultural conformity over measurable military readiness.
- That approach risks damaging morale and fails to address actual readiness metrics.
Run As A Party, Build A Broader Coalition
- Run as a Democrat in Florida to amplify values while building a broader coalition of independents and soft Republicans.
- Don't require others to register Democrat to win their votes; focus on policy and outreach.