Hilaritas Press Podcasts Episode 47: David Jay Brown & Rebecca McClen Novick
Jul 23, 2025
Rebecca McClen Novick, an experienced interviewer and yoga teacher, teams up with David Jay Brown, a psychedelic researcher and consciousness explorer. They delve into the intricate connections between consciousness, lucid dreaming, and the evolving perceptions of psychedelics in society. The duo shares personal anecdotes about déjà vu and past lives while discussing the balance between technology and authentic communication. Optimism in the face of death and the creative inspirations from their experiences are also compelling highlights of this insightful conversation.
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How The Collaboration Began
- David Jay Brown met Rebecca after a serendipitous chain of events starting with picking up a hitchhiker and meeting Beck in a bookstore.
- Their instant rapport and late-night philosophical sessions sparked the idea to interview leading thinkers about consciousness.
Two Perspectives Create A Third Mind
- Brown and Novick prepared interview questions independently and found little overlap, creating a richer combined interview.
- Their differing perspectives (gender, culture) produced a complementary 'third mind' during interviews.
Consciousness As Primordial
- Brown sees consciousness as the deepest mystery and the locus of subjective awareness that expands in altered states.
- He suggests matter may have emerged from consciousness rather than the reverse, hinting at a primordial 'one big mind'.
