Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite: The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon, discusses his new book about Sam Bankman-Fried and his crypto exchange FTX. The conversation explores Sam's personality, the unique environment at FTX, and the consequences of crypto asset collapse. Michael also reflects on witnessing a surprising event and his struggles writing a book without a clear ending.
Sam Bankman-Fried's story highlights the need for regulation and oversight in the chaotic crypto industry.
The book explores the societal implications and debates surrounding the future of crypto and its potential to disrupt the financial sector.
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The Rise and Fall of Sam Bagman-Fried and FTX
In this podcast episode, Michael Lewis discusses his latest book, 'Going Infinite, The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon,' which chronicles the story of Sam Bagman-Fried, founder of the crypto exchange FTX. Lewis explores Bagman-Fried's unique aptitude for functioning in chaotic environments and his creation of FTX, a company run like a chess match with no order or job titles. Lewis also delves into the emotional baggage and therapy sessions within the company and the lack of regulation and oversight in the bankruptcy process. The episode explores the consequences and possible societal reactions to the collapse of crypto assets and offers insights into the characters involved, including John Ray and CZ.
Implications of Bagman-Fried's Story
Bagman-Fried's story serves as a cautionary tale of the need for regulation and adult supervision in chaotic environments like the crypto industry. The book raises questions about the accountability of figures like John Ray and raises concerns about the bankruptcy process and its lack of oversight. The book also highlights the social consequences of instant wealth creation and the power dynamics surrounding it. It explores the rage and anger directed at Bagman-Fried and suggests a deeper sense of sadness and fascination with his story and the forces that propelled him to success.
The Dynamic Crypto Industry
Lewis reflects on the uncertain future of crypto and the debates around its functionality and value. The episode discusses the split opinions among the audience regarding the long-term potential of crypto and its role as a store of value or investment opportunity. It raises questions about the societal and political implications of the crypto industry's expansion and the potential consequences for financial centers and regulators like the Bahamas. The book explores the risks and possibilities offered by blockchain technology in eliminating intermediaries and disrupting the financial sector.
Controversies and Backlash
Michael Lewis shares his experiences with controversies and backlash surrounding his books, such as 'Moneyball' and 'Flash Boys,' and highlights the impact of social media and organized campaigns on public perceptions. He addresses the criticism and pushback he has faced from various sources regarding the accuracy and portrayal of certain individuals or events. Lewis emphasizes that the controversy has not affected his personal life or his commitment to telling compelling stories and engaging readers.
This week, we have a bonus episode for you, live from the FT Due Diligence Forum in London. FT chief features writer Henry Mance sits down with author Michael Lewis to discuss his new book, Going Infinite: The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon, an all-access account of Sam Bankman-Fried before his crypto exchange FTX collapsed. This conversation was recorded on October 11 2023.