

Bonus Episode: Rachel Maddow in Conversation with Tony Kushner
14 snips Jul 1, 2024
Tony Kushner and Rachel Maddow discuss the rise of fascism, historical roots of anti-Semitism, Elizabeth Dilling's shocking career trajectory, a senator's involvement in a Nazi propaganda plot, Iran's parliamentary elections, the legacy of John Ragi, and the importance of storytelling in upholding democracy.
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Ultra's Origins
- Rachel Maddow's interest in the resurgence of Holocaust denial alongside Trump's rise led her to investigate its origins.
- This investigation uncovered a 1944 sedition trial, the Brooklyn Boys, and bombings, forming the basis of Ultra and Prequel.
Erasure of History
- The erasure of American fascist history is attributed to a lack of responsible storytellers, except the fascists themselves.
- Maddow aims to provide a balanced account, as the Justice Department and other stakeholders have reasons to suppress this history.
Fascism and Segregation
- George Deatheridge, involved in the 1944 sedition trial, later became active in the anti-civil rights movement in the Deep South.
- This highlights a connection between American fascism and segregation, both considered forms of oppression.