The State of the Federation, with Mastodon's Eugen Rochko
Dec 20, 2023
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Mastodon's founder and CEO, Eugen Rochko, discusses Mastodon's epic year and the growth of the Fediverse. They explore the arrival of Meta and the benefits of Threads joining the Fediverse. They also discuss the adoption of Blue Sky and the future of open social networks. The chapter covers the rise and fall of XMPP, the importance of innovating user experiences, and funding in the Fediverse. They recognize Mastodon's achievements and express gratitude for a powerful online platform.
Mastodon's founder reflects on the platform's impressive growth and the integration of major players like Meta
Limited financial resources pose challenges for Mastodon's expansion and improvement
Integration with Meta-owned Threads provides an opportunity to connect with millions of active users and challenge commercial silos
Deep dives
Mastodon's Growth and Achievements
Mastodon has experienced tremendous growth in the past year, with active users increasing from 200,000 to 1.6 million. They have gained mainstream awareness and received buy-in from platforms like Flipboard, Medium, and Mozilla. The founder, Eugene Rajko, reflects on the amazing progress and the unexpected willingness of major players like Meta to integrate with Mastodon's protocol.
Team and Resources
Mastodon operates with a small team of 1.5 engineers and limited financial resources. They have recently hired two additional employees due to increased Patreon donations, but still face challenges with funding. Eugene emphasizes the need for financial support to expand the team and further improve Mastodon.
Meta's Arrival on the Fediverse
Eugene expresses mixed feelings about Meta's introduction to the Fediverse. While he personally doesn't support Meta and their properties, he sees the value in Threads, a Meta-owned service, joining the federated network. This integration allows Mastodon users to connect with the 100 million active users on Threads, potentially expanding Mastodon's reach and providing an alternative to commercial silos.
Mastodon's Approach to Moderation
Eugene addresses concerns about moderation in the Fediverse as it continues to grow. He highlights Mastodon's approach to moderation, including the ability to suspend remote accounts and block domains. He points out that moderation is not automatically imposed on a server-wide or federated level, allowing users to have control over their own experiences while engaging with other instances.
The Future of Mastodon and the Social Web
Looking ahead, Mastodon's goal is to grow to 10 million and eventually 100 million active users. They aim to improve onboarding, discovery, and retention, as well as continue outreach to attract various services, news organizations, and governments to the platform. Eugène envisions a future where Mastodon is widely accepted, represented by major organizations, and recognized as a viable alternative to mainstream social media platforms.
It’s been a momentous time for the Fediverse. New versions of Mammoth and Ivory launched. WordPress and Tumblr reaffirmed their commitment to integrating ActivityPub. And then both Threads and Flipboard rolled out their plans to federate.
What does this all mean for the Fediverse? How will moderation work as the Fediverse grows in leaps and bounds? Who will be next to federate?
Mastodon’s founder and CEO Eugen Rochko goes deep with Flipboard CEO Mike McCue for a sprawling conversation that looks back on Mastodon’s epic year, dissects the moment we’re in today, and ponders a future filled with big changes and new ideas.
More urgently, if you’re following what’s happening with Threads, it is essential listening for understanding Meta’s strategy and how the Fediverse is responding.
Highlights from this conversation include:
0:51 Looking back on Mastodon’s epic year 3:22 Small team, big goals 4:55 The arrival of Threads/Meta: pro or con? 9:01 The way Mastodon/Fediverse is architected to provide a better social media experience 11:24 The “big win” of Meta adopting an open standard 12:10 The game-changing paradigm shift in how social media works 17:30 Why Meta is committing to Threads — a significant moment for the social web 18:10 Mastodon community’s reaction to Threads’ entry 19:24 Preemptively building walls to block Threads: self-defeating? 21:10 Tools and advice for instance owners on interoperating with Threads 26:09 Gaining momentum: who will federate next? 28:34 Bluesky 30:00 ActivityPub: the beauty of a generic protocol 38:24 User experiences in the Fediverse 41:06 “Embrace, extend, extinguish” and the XMPP comparison 50:28 Funding Mastodon through Patreon donations 53:10 U.S. nonprofit version of Mastodon and grant applications 54:23 On outside contributions to Mastodon’s code base 57:42 Hopes and dreams for the future
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