Catalog & Cocktails: The Honest, No-BS Data Podcast All things Data Lineage with Dr. Irina Steenbeek
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Jan 29, 2026 Dr. Irina Steenbeek, data practitioner and author focused on data lineage and aligning data and AI governance. She breaks down lineage at business, conceptual, logical and physical levels. Short practical takes on scoping lineage for value, when full technical lineage is unrealistic, and how lineage and governance share foundations like catalogs and metadata.
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Data, Lineage, And AI Share A Foundation
- Data management, data lineage, and AI governance share the same foundational capabilities and artifacts.
- Irina argues AI systems are essentially data flows, so governance should treat them as part of data management.
Lineage Is Multi-Level, Not Just Technical
- Data lineage exists at multiple levels: business, conceptual, logical, and physical, each needing different artifacts.
- Linking these artifacts creates a knowledge-graph-like net that governance and lineage both require.
People Problems Beat Tech Problems
- Organizational challenges often outweigh technological ones when documenting lineage.
- Different stakeholders need different lineage views, so people and processes matter more than tools.
