Recent pay offers to teachers are seen by the Public Service Commissioner as entirely reasonable.
Primary teachers decided to reject its latest offer, while PPTA members are voting on the revised one.
It includes increasing the number of days secondary teachers can be called back to work outside of term time.
Commissioner Sir Brian Roche told Mike Hosking they have the ability to call them back for 10 more days a year, which is what's being asked.
He says they're getting paid for this and just want teachers to be available for career development when students aren't at school.
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