Tangle Suspension of the Rules. - Kmele interviews Charles C.W. Cooke and then joins Isaac and Ari to talk about Susie Wiles and Rob Reiner.
Dec 19, 2025
Charles C.W. Cooke, a Senior Writer at National Review and a keen analyst of conservatism, joins for an insightful chat about Trump 2.0 and its implications. He examines the historical view of Trump's nonconsecutive presidency and the impact on conservative ideals. Cooke critiques tariffs and spending, warns about immigration policy execution, and forecasts midterm outcomes based on economic conditions. The hosts also discuss Trump's controversial tweet about Rob Reiner and explore the dynamics of conservative reactions, showcasing a vibrant exchange of ideas.
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Presidential Decorum Matters
- Isaac Saul finds Trump's tweet mocking Rob Reiner after his murder morally shocking and culturally corrosive.
- He warns that a president publicly mocking a recently murdered critic signals a dangerous erosion of presidential character.
Voters Tolerate Character For Policy
- Ari Weitzman recounts a Trump-supporting neighbor who admitted he didn't like Trump but wanted policy changes.
- This illustrates how many voters tolerate a leader for perceived policy benefits despite disliking his character.
Crassness Breaks Through
- Charles C.W. Cooke argues Trump's crude post broke through to normies in a way insider leaks often don't.
- He suggests such behavior has real political costs and can drive exhausted supporters away.