126: Dame Stella Rimington, Frederick Forsyth and Frank Gardner

Dame Stella Rimington reveals that she still keeps a sharp eye out for espionage despite retiring as chief of MI5. (Starts at 1.10)

Frederick Forsyth and Frank Gardner go head to head in Cheltenham and spill the beans about how close fact comes to fiction (Starts at 25.25)

And we return to Dame Stella Rimington for the books of her life (Starts at 51.00)