The Social-Engineer Podcast Ep. 161 - Human Element Series - Do You Want To Go Fast Or Far with Amy Herman
This month Chris Hadnagy is joined by the fascinating Amy Herman. Amy is a lawyer and an art historian who uses works of art to sharpen observation, analysis, and communication skills. She developed her Art of Perception seminar in 2000 and since then has worked with the New York City Police Department, the FBI, Department of Defense, Fortune 500 companies and more. She is also a TED speaker and an author of 2 books. Her latest book, “Fixed: How to Perfect the Fine Art of Problem-Solving was just released in December of 2021. She is also going to be bringing her fascinating training seminar to the Human Behavior Conference this March! [January 10, 2022]
00:00 – Intro
- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/
- innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/
02:39 - Amy Herman Intro
04:17 – Tell us how you got to where you are today
07:12 – How did you get to the conclusion where two different people from the same class have different needs?
10:00 – Is there an equation or secret about how an every day person can use that skill?
13:33 – Amy's new book, “Fixed”
15:00 – How did you come up with the concept of this book?
18:00 – What is the hope you want for people who read this?
19:52 – How has the past 18 months changed the concepts of visual intelligence?
25:55 – Are you going to keep virtual training?
29:50 – Being more empathetic and finding common ground
32:31 – Can you explain “pertinent negative” from your book?
35:34 – Tell the story about your book cover
40:36 – Besides yours what are some of your favorite books?
- (Amy’s book) Visual Intelligence: Sharpen Your Perception, Change Your Life
- The Boys In The Boat – Nine Americans and Their Quest for the Gold - by Daniel James Brown
43:27 – Who is your greatest mentor?
45:15 – Guest Wrap Up
Website: www.artfulperception.com
Twitter: www.twitter.com/AmyhermanAOP
Instagram: @AmyHermanAOP