The Delphi Podcast pump.fun's Sapijiju: First-Ever Discussion on Building the Future of Social Trading
Anil Lulla and Yan Liberman host Sapijiju, co-founder of Pump.fun. Sapijiju shares Pump.fun’s bigger vision: beyond meme coins, it’s aiming to be the most rewarding social platform, revolutionizing creator monetization, and building a $2B-backed financial ecosystem.
Pump.fun: https://pump.fun
🎯 Key Highlights
▸ Pump.fun’s vision: TikTok + Robinhood + Twitch in one
▸ Streamers earning 100–300x more than on traditional platforms
▸ 9 failed products before finding product-market fit
▸ Why most crypto firms are just riding Bitcoin
▸ New fee model: $2.4M to creators on day one
▸ Mobile-first: beating desktop crypto apps
▸ $2B balance sheet for smart capital moves
▸ 100% revenue buybacks (Hyperliquid/Binance playbook)
▸ Roadmap: stablecoin + full financial stack
▸ Young founders vs. traditional finance
▸ Why social media’s incentives are broken
▸ Targeting 16–24s ignored by incumbents
▸ Stats: 70 staff, $1.6B locked, billion+ daily volumes
▸ Aggressive M&A, Facebook-style
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▸ Sapijiju's Twitter: @sapijiju
▸ Pump.fun Twitter: @pumpdotfun
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Timestamps
00:00 – Intro & Sapijiju’s crypto journey
04:45 – 9 failed products → Pump.fun success
07:15 – Product-market fit & anti-rug mechanism
09:15 – Scaling team to 70
10:30 – Vision: social trading super-app
13:00 – $2.4M to streamers on launch day
14:15 – Why social platforms fail creators
16:45 – 300x better monetization
18:15 – DMs, streaming & mobile-first
19:30 – Competing vs. Coinbase/Binance
21:45 – User patterns: TikTok + finance
24:30 – Network effects via creator rewards
26:30 – $500k creator starter kits
28:00 – Mobile strategy for viral growth
29:15 – Zora vs. Pump.fun (content vs. coin)
31:15 – Small changes → 5x streaming growth
33:30 – Sandbox for creator freedom
35:15 – Telegram + crypto-native tools
36:30 – Democratized ICOs
38:15 – $1.6B locked, billion+ daily volumes
39:15 – Stablecoin vision
40:15 – Long-term: global takeover
42:30 – $2B balance sheet strategy
44:30 – ROI-driven capital deployment
45:15 – M&A playbook
46:15 – DAT & institutional access
47:15 – Revenue buybacks model
49:15 – VCs missing meme culture
51:15 – Story Protocol critique
53:30 – Meme coins vs. infra “scams”
54:30 – Generational wealth cycles
57:45 – Crypto as last frontier
59:15 – TradFi as modern slavery
1:01:30 – Black Mirror & moderation
1:02:30 – Mobile growth engines
1:03:30 – Scaling to $200M daily revenue
1:04:30 – Post-token comms lessons
1:05:30 – Open DMs & next episode
1:06:15 – Closing thoughts
Disclaimer
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