Ronald Reagan’s famous quote, “trust, but verify” captures the balance between faith and caution. It reminds us to value trust while backing it up with evidence. When we think about risk and resilience, this week’s guest tells us the same thing.

Hello everyone, and welcome to episode 162 of the Resilient Journey podcast, presented by the Resilience Think Tank.

This week we revisit the relationship between risk and resilience by welcoming special guest Donna Speckhard. Donna and Mark talk about emerging threats that you and your organization should consider as we head into 2025. Donna explains how her own diversity of interests helps make her a better resilience professional. Then, she and Mark talk about third party risk and the importance of understanding what our key suppliers have in place in terms of plans, procedures and training.  And, she says “trust, but verify”.

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