Phil is joined by Peter Catapano, of the New York Times, and graphic novelist Jess Ruliffson to discuss Peter's essay on the life and work of cartoonist Gary Leib

The Manifesto:
Peter Catapano, “I’m Going to Make a Fire”: The Transmogrifications of Gary Leib
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/im-going-to-make-a-fire-the-transmogrifications-of-gary-leib/

The Art:
Gary Leib's animation for The Stone
https://vimeo.com/148232540

Leib's animations for the Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/01/opinion/01leib_bio.html

Other:

Pre-order Peter's forthcoming book, Question Everything
https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324091837

Pre-order Jess' forthcoming graphic novel, Invisible Wounds.
https://jessruliffson.com/home.html

Episode 42: The Transmogrifications of Gary Leib