John Meese helps leaders build an online audience around their message as the Dean of Platform University, and helps entrepreneurs systemize success so that they can get more results from less effort on his personal blog.

In this conversation John and Erik talk about:

• Why John doesn't have any social media accounts
• The thought process he and his wife went through to leave social media
• The personal and professional benefits of not using social media
• Why John doesn't have internet at his home!

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