Most people think being “strong” means defending every point. But defensiveness is often what destroys clarity, connection, and influence.

In this episode, Kwame and Shermin Kruse explore Stoic Empathy — the skill of staying grounded, aware, and emotionally balanced even when conversations get difficult. Shermin shares how to control your reactions, absorb emotional “hits,” and respond with intention instead of instinct.

If you want to stay calm under pressure, lead with confidence, and navigate tough moments without losing yourself, this conversation will change everything.

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