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Bethel wouldn't stop him so his son and victims are going public.

Jan 13, 2026
Jedediah Hartley, son of Bob Hartley and whistleblower, exposes his father's fraudulent prophecy practices and alleged predatory behavior. He shares shocking firsthand accounts of how Bob used insider information to manipulate church members. Michelle Seidler, a survivor and advocate, amplifies victim testimonies and reveals her organized efforts for accountability. Both highlight a troubling culture of cover-ups within the charismatic movement and call for greater transparency and protection for victims.
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INSIGHT

Cover-Up Culture In Prophetic Circles

  • A pervasive "cover-up culture" exists in parts of the charismatic movement that protects high-profile prophetic figures.
  • That culture privileges institutional image over investigating abuse and warning congregations.
ANECDOTE

Son Catches Prophetic 'Magic Show'

  • Jedediah discovered his father, Bob Hartley, used supplied names and host knowledge to fake prophecies.
  • He later realized the practice was normalized by leaders like Paul Cain and Mike Bickle in their circles.
ANECDOTE

The 'Hamburger Helper' Rationalization

  • Jedediah recounts a 2014 confrontation where his father admitted sourcing information non-divinely and defended it as common practice.
  • The 'hamburger helper' rationalization framed small fabrications as acceptable seasoning to prophecy.
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